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defended the pentagon's response to the attack in benghazi that left chris stevenson and three others dead. there just wasn't enough time to get attack aircraft to the scene. >>> today, president obama will speak at a farewell dinner for panetta. he will be replaced by chuck hagel if replaced by the senate. >>> and michelle obama plans to travel to chicago to attend the funeral for 15-year-old hadiya pendleton. a band student and honor opportunity who participated in the inauguration festivities. hadiya was the victim of gun violence last week. fatally shot about a mile from the obama home. >>> wall street is bracing for a blizzard. keep an eye on linkedin today. the professional social media network shot up 10%. thanks to earnings that dealer doubled. >>> boeing stocks go higher. federal investigators have given the green light to testing of the dreamliner. >>> we'll see how apple fared day after. david iron horn called the company out for the bailout of cash. apple said it's consider the proposal of shares. they could build a stack of dollar bills. 9,000 miles high. they could foot the c
military operations. the pentagon says it will reduce the naval presence in the persian gulf. plans for the uss harry truman carrier to head to the gulf this week have been canceled. that would leave one carrier in the region. defense secretary leon panetta warns under the cuts pentagon workers could face furloughs saying, this is not a game this is reality. >>> vice president joe biden made an emotional appeal to house democrats last night urging them to support the obama administration's gun control agenda. biden choked up while speaking about the recent tragedy at sandy hook and recounted examples of 1600 deaths since that day. his tone turned emphatic reminding audience as their obligation as lawmakers to act. >> when people tell me that you can't prevent these kinds of occurrences, that doesn't mean we can't do something to god forbid if it happens again diminish the carnage. it matters. it matters. >> speaking to those worried about the political consequences of backing controversial gun legislation, biden argued "i promise you, times have changed." >>> new jersey governor chr
for teachers, and cuts at the pentagon that officials say could hurt national security. still, the white house and republicans remained lock in a stalemate over how to deal with the sequester. yesterday, president obama called john boehner and mitchell mcconnell, but neither republican leader has any appetite for new taxes, something the president says should be part of the deal. the president spoke with reverend al sharpton yesterday. >> my sense is that their basic view is that nothing is important enough to raise taxes on wealthy individuals or corporations, and they would prefer to see these kinds of cuts that could slow down our recovery over closing tax loophol loopholes. and that's the thing that binds their party together at this point. this is a major argument, obviously, we've been having for the last three years. unfortunately, i think republicans right now have been so dug in on this notion of never raising taxes that it becomes difficult for them to see an obvious answer right in front of them. >> of course, you have to take the battle to twitter. the showdown continued online wit
in alabama where a kidnapped 5-year-old boy was held for nearly a week. plus the changes the pentagon could soon be making to its benefits policy for same-sex couples an earthquake in the south pacific triggered a tsunami that killed five people today. the eight -point -0 magnitude quake struck off the solomon islands. four elderly people and one child died when strong waves triggered by the quake hit an eastern region known as the santa cruz islands. damage is still being assessed but the tsunami appears to have caused some damage and disruption at the local airport and nearby villages. a tsunami warning issued for several other countries was later canceled. the f-b-i has released new photos of the bunker where a five-year-old boy from alabama was held hostage for six days. authorities found two homemade bombs yesterday in the bunker where jimmy lee dykes was keeping the boy hostage and continue to search for more today. one was in the underground bunker, the other was in a p-v- c pipe that the hostage taker used to communicate with police. dykes was killed in a raid on the bunker monday.
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't or won't act. brian mooar, nbc news, washington. >>> president obama's nominee to run the pentagon will have to wait at least another week for an up or down vote in the senate. it now appears chuck hagel will get the vote when senators return. two top republicans say they will stop efforts to stall his confirmation. that filibuster came a day after hagel was approved by the armed services by a party-line vote. one of his most vocal opponents says while he doesn't believe hague sell qualified, he won't hold up the process. >> i thought we had an agreement to wait a week so the remaining questions would be answered, but i understand the white house wanted a vote. they got a vote. we will have a vote when we get back. i'm confident that senator hagel will probably have the votes necessary to be confirmed as the secretary of defense. >> the gop it says blocked hagel's nomination in an effort to further examine his record and views on israel and iran. senate majority leader harry reid hopes to bring a final vote to the floor when congress goes back in session next monday. >>> so residen
are desperate to solve this problem. >> if you had a choice of saving the pentagon or playing golf with tiger, what would you do? >> i'd play golf with tiger. but that's two guys talking here. i don't begrudge the president two days off. he's earned that. >> he needs it. >> and the congress isn't there for nine days either. my point s neither side seems to view this as urgently as the american public. >> oh, no. i wasn't doing that as a subtle dig. i would golf with tiger and figure out a way to save the pentagon. >> maybe while you're golfing with tiger. maybe tiger had some ideas. i don't know. >> long time between holes on that course. >> good things happen when presidents are golfing with famous people. back in 1997 bill clinton got a phone call while he was golfing with michael jordan in vegas. he got the horrible news that -- true stroory. i get to say this because i'm a former politician. he got the news that if he did nothing, the budget was going to balance itself alone without any of his help. so he quit, rushed to the airport and came back saying, we have to do something fast so i
to georgetown, today, leon panetta warned of huge budget cuts looming for the pentagon if congress doesn't act. and he had some choice words for both sides blaming each for to reach an agreement to avoid cuts to our military. also generally what's happened lately to washington. >> thank you very much. this is not a game. this is reality. these steps would seriously damage a fragile american economy, and they would degrade our ability to respond to crisis, precisely at a time of rising instability across the globe. >> panetta served for 16 years, 8 terms. today he called the defense spending cuts legislative madness. >>> the use of drones continues to make headlines tonight. after our nbc news report about the obama administration's use of drone strikes to target suspected terrorists overseas. that same technology is being used here at home, a lot. not to launch missile strikes of any kind, but as eyes in the sky for a local law enforcement and a lot of other uses. they've got a lot of folks concerned, and some states are moving to ban drones. our report tonight from nbc's john yang in chicago.
. >>> president obama's nominee to run the pentagon will have to wait at least another week for an up or down vote in the senate. but it now appears chuck hagel will get that vote when senators return. at least two top republicans say they will stop efforts to stall his confirmation. that filibuster came a day after hagel was approved by the armed services by a party-line vote. one of his most vocal opponents says while he doesn't believe hagel is qualified, he won't hold up the process. >> i thought we had an agreement to wait a week so the remaining questions would be answered, but i understand the white house wanted a vote. they got a vote. we will have a vote when we get back. i'm confident that senator hagel will probably have the votes necessary to be confirmed as the secretary of defense. >> the gop it says blocked hagel's nomination in an effort to further examine his record and views on israel and iran. senate majority leader harry reid hopes to bring a final vote to the floor when congress goes back in session next monday. >>> residents in coastal new england are cleaning up after yet an
, we're following two big stories this morning. the pentagon forced to make a major cut that some are concerned will be a threat to security. >>> time now is 5:28.  [ male announcer ] pipillsbury grands biscuits. delicious. but say i press a few out flat... add some beef sloppy joe sauce... and cheese fold it all up and boom! i just made an unbeatable unsloppy joe pillsbury grands biscuits. let the making begin. [ malcrrkkhshziiiizzlllee. to this symphony of flavor: beautiful. shhhhshshshshhshshhhhhsshhhshs. gorgeous! here comes the crescendo. kkerrrrbbuuuuuucraaackkk. just...incredible. pillsbury toaster strudel. if beethoven made breakfast. >>> good morning on this thursday, looking live over washington d.c. going to be a little cold. little check in with tucker now and get the latest on our forecast. >>> good morning. just looking at the latest s torm. we have a developing storm tomorrow. we're going to be on the southern and western end of it. if you don't like winter w eather, that's good news for u s. our friends to the north will be shoveling and shoveling later t
the board. with the pentagon and other departments already in crisis mode, the white house announced thursday that he had phoned them but wouldn't state more. was it to reach out for a decision or to reach out in order to compromise? >> the president shoek with senator mcconnell and the speaker. i have no content to read out to you. the two republican leaders pointed out this was the first time they reached out in ought mat imcuts in 2012. it will mean $1.2 trillion in across-the-board cuts. thursday president obama argued to friendly radio hosts that they're standing in his way for the wrong reasons. >> their basic view is nothing is important enough to raise taxes on well thi individuals or corporations corporations. and they would prefer to see these kinds of cuts and that's what behinds them at that the point. eric cantor put it this way in a statement. president obama has said that unless he gets a second tax hike, he will forced to let criminals loose on the streets meats at your grocery store won't be inspected and emergency responders won't be able to d
out of federal programs and the pentagon. 800,000 civilian employees have been told by the defense department that they will likely be placed on unpaid leave. with the house and senate still in recess, a number of democrats are calling for congress to reconvene to deal with this mess. secretary of state john kerry, meanwhi meanwhile, is reminding his former colleagues that actions here at home do have global implications. take a listen. >> it is often said that we cannot be strong at home if we're not strong in the world. but in these days of a looming budget sequester that everyone actually wants to avoid, or most, we can't be strong in the world unless we are strong at home. my credibility is a diplomat, working to help other countries create order is strongest when america, at last, puts its own fiscal house in order. and that has to be now. let's reach a responsible agreement that prevents these senseless consults. let's not lose this opportunity because of politics. >> you know, mike barnicle, politics is such a cruel, cruel game. seriously. there's one guy that gets to the to
. and the funding cuts gethit just one week from today. with the pentagon and other departments already in crisis mode, the white house oannounced thursday the president phoned mitch mcconnell and house speaker john boehner but deliberately avoided saying more. was it simply to restate his position or to reach out to them in the interests of compromise? >> the president spoke with senator mcconnell and the speaker. i have no content to read out to you of those conversations. >> reporter: the two republican leaders pointed out this was the first time the president has reached out to them on the topic of the automatic cuts in two months since the end of 2012. the sequester is set to kick in a week from today will mean $1.2 trillion in across the board cuts. thursday, mr. obama argued to friendly radio hosts that republicans are standing in his way for the wrong reasons. >> their basic view is that nothing is important enough to raise taxes on wealthy individuals or corporations and they would prefer to see these kinds of cuts and that's the thing that binds their party togethe
. they don't receive combat pay and it's absolutely ridiculous. so recently, the pentagon established that a woman that serves in combat is entitled to receive all of the things that go with it to show our country's appreciation. so it seems to me that if we're going to have a draft and i really believe that if we did have a draft set up that congress would not be so anxious to the democrats and republicans to put our young people in harm's way. >> tell me why you say that because you're introduced this legislation multiple times and it's clearly something you're very committed to. you bet your life because the people in the congress that allow these things to go on, they have no fear that anyone in their community and their families are going to be making any sacrifice at all. less than 1% of americans, most of whom volunteer for economic reasons paid the price in terms of 6600 lives lost, tens of thousands of people wounded. veterans, american veterans coming home, disoriented, unemploy unemployed, some homeless and no one pays a price. i submit to you, we would not be in iraq, afgh
. ♪ chocolate. >>> the pentagon is facing massive budget cuts in the coming weeks. if congress fails to act by march 1st, the series of cuts will be made to the u.s. military's defense capability. here's more -- capability. here's more. >> reporter: during the fall debate, president obama said the sequester, quote, won't happen. now his white house is saying domestic programs will be cut 9% and military programs cut 13% this year, unless congress takes action. >> putting our fiscal house in order calls for a balanced approach, not massive indiscriminant cuts that can have a severe impact on our military preparedness. >> reporter: republicans think they gave a lot of ground during fiscal cliff negotiations. a spokesman per speaker boehner said the president got his higher taxes last month with no corresponding cuts. the tax issue has been resolved and spending is the problem. meanwhile, military leaders are sounding the alarm. >> instead of being a first- rate power in the world, we turn into a second-rate power and that would be the result of sequester. >> reporter: the white house said fri
in a speech, leon panetta warned of huge budget cuts looming for the pentagon if congress doesn't act. and he had had some choice words for both sides blaming each for to reach an agreement to avoid cuts to our military. also generally what's happened lately to washington. >> thank you very much. this is not a game. this is reality. these steps would seriously damage a fragile american economy, and they would degrade our ability to respond to crisis, precisely at a time of rising inacross stability across the globe. >> panetta served for 16 years, 8 terms. today he called the defense spending cuts legislative madness. >>> the use of drones continues to make headlines tonight. after our nbc news report about the obama administration's use of drone strikes to target suspected terrorists overseas. that same technology is being used here at home, a lot. not to launch missile strikes of any kind, but as eyes in the sky for a local law enforcement and a lot of other uses. they've got a lot of folks concerned, and some states are moving to ban drones. our report tonight from nbc's john yang in chica
hagel will show up for his first day of work in the pentagon. he was confirmed last night by a 58-41 vote. and the president's choice for treasury secretary could be confirmed today, jack lew. he sailed through the senate finance committee yesterday. >>> stunning decision from natureo. a really bad clerical error. a 7% decline in violence in afghanistan last year, turns out was inaccurate. taliban attacks held steady. and militants killed 17 people overnight, including ten afghan police officers while they slept this in the gazni province in afghanistan. >>> dennis rodman is in north korea, of all places. with three members of the famed harlem globetrotters to put on a show for fans while she film a tv documentary. rodman, known as the worm, tweeting from inside north korea and saying maybe i'll run into the gangnam style dude while i'm here. psy, he is south korean, not north korean. >> a little bit of a problem. >> a big difference. >> i haven't heard the nickname the worm since about 1999. >> rodman, bad as i want to be. >> yet there he is tweeting from north korea. >>> still a
. in the meantime, panetta made news yesterday when he said for the first time the pentagon backed the idea of giving arms to rebels in syria. it's been reported hillary clinton and former cia director petraeus asked the white house for permission to arm the syrian rebels but were denied. >>> to d.c. politics now, the city's ethics board says it will not pursue evidence i found against council member jim graham. the board says further action cannot be taken because the incident happened before the ethics board was created. however, a federal grand jury is investigating graham and the contracting process. >>> fairfax county police say the serial fondler has struck again. take a good look at this updated sketch. now 18 incidents reported in and around springfield since september. all of which have the same suspect description and the same m.o. the man comes from behind and gropes women and runs. he has previously been described as having a beard. nowe's described as acne on his shaving bumps. >>> a maryland mother is facing charges that she murdered her 2- year-old. police say chelsea booth c
budget is shrinking but our enemies is growing. for the first time in two years, the pentagon says it can't afford to keep two aircraft carriers in the persian gulf. the truman would have left today from norfolk, virginia. leon panetta blamed it on sequestration saying if congress can't rewrite the law, things will get worse. >> instead of a first rate power in the world, we turn into a second rate power. that would be the result of sequester. >> you won't find this chairman arguing we need to do more with less. you'll find me arguing if that happens, we need to do less with less. >> as the u.s. and most allies decrease spending, adversaries are doing the opposite. china is slated to overtate the u.s. in 2035. >> you've seen double digit increases in chinese defense spending for 15 years. that not only gives pause to the united states but concern for the region as well. >> two years ago robert gates browbeat nato allies to spend 2% on defense but when france wanted to send force to say mallie, the u.s. paraded airlift and -- provided airlift. in the middle east, the gulf states are increa
the pentagon which is why the sequester idea was terrible. it's a choice between higher tacks and lower military spending. i don't know who agreed to that. the president likes that choice. >> even if congress would get together and give him the authority to change the areas we cut, even though we stay at the same dollar line, you would be of the opinion he would want to cut the military? >> absolutely. i think we will have the sequestration. i think the objective should be as soon as we can get military spending back up where it should be and cut domestic spending more deeply. >> former ambassador to the united nations, john bolton. great to see you. have a great weekend. >> thank you. >> remember the mayor and fired himself when the town was broke? he says it's not his fault he's illiterate. and did george washington really chop down a cherry tree? we have three minutes to study up because we are taking a history test. brian is getting behind the podium. that makes me nervous. are you cheating? >> what is this about george washington and me staying behind the podium? >> bite out of an
the pentagon. like don't cut a single thing, but i'm going to go out, i'm going to keep talking about rich americans. i'm going to keep talking about corporations. i'm going to play to my base instead of talking -- telling middle-class americans they're going to have to make some sacrifices. along with the rich. it's that mika, it's a permanent campaign. and i guess if this is how he wants to run things, he's president of the united states, good luck over the next 3 1/2 years. >> i don't understand why loopholes are even an argument, first of all, why he has to go this far. why he has to keep talking about it. >> hold on a second. >> i know. >> we all agree that these loopholes need to be closed. >> well, let's do it. why is it so hard? >> i've been talking about supporting warren buffett's idea. >> why are we still talking about it? >> because the president only uses it to demagogue in a permanent campaign. he never talks about the other side of it. he always says oh, it's the rich. >> that would be loopholes. >> don't tax you, don't tax me, tax the rich guy behind the tree. >> steny hoye
to charlie's child and to her wife. >> right. >> those benefits, the pentagon no matter how much they want to, they can't do those things. >> right. >> because they are precluded by law because of doma. >> and secretary panetta and the president, they did all they could under the law. and that's what a lot of people don't understand. here is another story charlie told me. she said when she was doing her live interview, she also went to see her then congressman from new hampshire. and she told her story. and the congressman said oh, but you're okay. you live in new hampshire. you're legally married in new hampshire. that's legal. so you're taken care of. so her congressman didn't even know that her wife was treated as a second class citizen and didn't enjoy the benefits that other military families enjoyed. so if the congressman didn't know, you know, the american public has no idea. so we need to continue telling charlie's story. >> the reason that i wanted to play that particular clip of her lobbying gene shaheen there, gene shaheen obviously somebody who has been very supportive of her. but
briefing tuesday. >>> and leon panetta testified thursday saying the pentagon did not have any forces close to libya when the u.s. consulate was attacked last september. he also said for the first time, or he said for the first time that the defense department supported arming rebels in syria. that's a direct contrast to the official position of the obama administration. >>> funeral services will be held at arlington cemetery today for a virginia soldier. 28-year-old sergeant aaron whitman was a graduate of the citadel. he was on his second deployment to afghanistan when he was killed last month. he was the first u.s. combat casualty of the year. he was based out of fort stewart, georgia. >>> the first lady will attend the funeral of the murdered chicago teenager who performed at the president's inauguration. funeral services for hadiya pendleton will be held tomorrow. police say the drum majorette was talking with a group of friends last week when she was shot in the back by a stray bullet. so far, no arrests in this case. but it has brought renewed attention to chicago's high moderated an
, the pentagon has grounded the entire fleet of f-35 fighter jets. a crack was found in the engine of one of the planes during a routine inspection. $400 billion, the f-35 program is the most expensive weapons system in military history. >>> five, now with no deal in sight, we are six days away from forced spending cuts that will slash $85 billion in spending and the white house is putting pressure on republicans. >> the here is the thing. these cuts don't have to happen. congress can turn them off any time with just a little compromise. they can pass a balanced plan for deficit reduction. they can cut spending in a smart way and close wasteful tax loopholes for the well-off and well-connected. unfortunately, it appears that republicans in congress have decided that instead of compromise, instead of asking anything of the wealthiest americans, they would rather let these cuts fall squarely on the middle class. >> that's the argument from the president. here is is how the gop is firing back. >>> the fact is republicans in congress right now will provide the flexibility to make the necessar
is expected to address service members and pentagon employees before getting down to business today. >>> the lines are drawn, and major corporations taking a stand on same-sex marriage. a closer look, coming up. why not make lunch more than just lunch? with two times the points on dining in restaurants, you may find yourself asking why not, a lot. chase sapphire preferred. there's more to enjoy. shaq wins. [ male announcer ] new icy hot advanced cream. the first with 2 max strength ingredients for long lasting relief. pain over. >>> minding your business, stocks pointing to a flat open. not a big surprise, because wall street is so nervous about forced spending cuts day as way. >>> and an exclusive report fro "fortune." >> 60 companies, and according to "fortune," they expect by the end of the day, it will be a lot more than just 60 companies. dozens of american corporations are expected to file this brief, so interesting, including apple, alcoa, facebook, ebay, morgan stanley, an amicus brief broadly arguing that the laws banning same-sex marriage like prop 8 are unconstitutional u
as the secretary steps up the rhetoric about dire cuts at the pentagon if sequestration goes into effect march 1. >>> the man accused of trying to blow up the federal reserve in new york expected to plead guilty to terror charges. officials say he tried to blow up the van with 1,000 pounds of explosives outside the buildings, but the explosives were fake. he is charged with trying to use weapons of mass destruction and trying to thwart al qaeda. >> there are thousands of reasons why people are late to work. traffic? the most common culprit. but not all employees blame jammed roads. a new survey reveals some of the most memorable excuses like -- good ideas for you. my car wouldn't start because the breathalyzer showed i was intoxicated. my car was attacked by a bear. here's the photo of proof. are we going to see it? >>steve: we heard it. >>gretchen: last but not least, my angry wife froze my keys in a glass of water in the freezer. come on. out of those three, that is the most logical one. >>brian: really? i tell you what, i think there is a long line of misdeeds if she is going to that extent t
, civilian life so difficult? >> there's nothing in place -- i mean, the pentagon had some things, department of defense had some things, even special forces. they have a few programs for these guys but mostly they don't know about it. >> is that their fault? is the independepentagon doing but is not widely known? >> v.a. will tell you one pentagon program in particular is not widely known. >> navy s.e.a.l.s continue to fight bravely, accomplishing crit critical mission that is keep our nation safe. the details of the bin laden operation are well known. we take seriously the safety and security of our people as well as our responsibility to assist sailors making the transition to civilian life. without more information about this particular case, it would be difficult to determine the degree to which our transition progr programs succeeded. what's the takeaway? >> the takeaway is that i think it's great. i think it's great they're committed to these guys. at the same time what they offered him when he came out from that -- at the end of the raid, the next day or day after the raid was a form
you 26 minutes. heading over to 395 slow at the pentagon. delays continue to the 14th >>> it is thursday morning, february 7th, 2013. we're getting ready in the northeast for what could be some major snow over the next few days, the calm before the storm. we're inside, toasty in studio 1a. i'm willie geist along with al and natalie, jenna bush-hager. good to see you. how are you feeling mama snfr good. >> you look amazing. >> my standard answer as i get bigger by the day. i'm annoyed at myself for even saying it. >> how far along are you now? >> i'm seven months. >> you're barely showing. i predict a boy. i'm just saying. >> 50-50. she's not having a puppy. >> it may come out -- i keep having dreams it's going to come out a cat. >> wow. >> wow. >> hair ball. >> this is a cat and i can take care of that, a litter box. >> parenting 101. >> your mom on line one. >> how do you predict a boy? >> everybody has the old wives tale. they say with girls your face shape changes, nose grows bigger, other things, more junk in the trunk. you're like a little basketball belly. i don'
's pick to head up the pentagon. we will talk to bob carey about what all of that means. >> mr. president, we will stand and fight throughout this country as americans for our freedom. >> the gun rights groups say they are working to protect the second amendment so we are going to take a look at what rights the second amendment affords and which it does not. we start with developing news in florida where the white house confirmed that president obama teed off with golfing great tiger woods today. woods lives about an hour and a half from where president obama is vacationing. they will be on the course for several more hours of course. joining us on the course is tim rosaforte. you are at the resort with the president. what more can you tell us? >> the floridaen golf and react club in palm city, florida is where they played their round of golf. the president is visiting here through some friends of his in houston. he was introduced to the golf course and as a result of that has decided to take a golf buddies trip more than anything else. he took lessons from butch harmon and his son, claud
during the testimony, it was interesting because panetta said the pentagon, the c.i.a., and the department of state were all on board with sending the rebels in syria where there has been mass genocide because ofor us to send them arms. you know who said no? the white house. well, we don't know if it's going to work. we don't know which of the rebels to arm. ultimately we don't know if it will result in the ouster of assad. >> brian: the "washington post" lead editorial today says hillary clinton and david petraeus, running the c.i.a. identified the group that they believe would have been the preferrable group to take over through all the rebels, they weeded through and had a plan. and the president nixed it. the word is too political. they wanted to make it seem we're not on a war footing with the election a month away. >> gretchen: maybe the election playing a huge role. let's look at the fox news polls right now. recently conducted, how many people feel our country compared to five years ago? nearly half of those polled say america is weaker and less powerful to
to be furloughs at the pentagon, the pay increases for the troops will not be as large as he would like, and then the president today added on to them, said, look, this is going to affect seniors, food safety, the poor. so what they are setting themselves up for is really this argument they are set to have and i think we're going to hear from the state of the union, over these automatic spending cuts that are due to take effect. the president is saying, we cannot let this occur and he's ready to clearly have that fight with republicans on this. >> panetta leaving office with an extraordinary acknowledgement that the defense department, the cia, state department, all of them recommended to the president that the u.s. should start arming, directly arming syrian rebels but the president decided that was not necessarily a good idea. that's pretty extraordinary. >> it was extraordinary. he was asked about it at a congressional hearing. what is interesting to me is someone who covers washington, it's not that there is disagreement at certain points over policy between the secretary of defense
's not going to be any opportunity to cut pentagon spending in any serious way if you don't go over the cliff. so there is some stuff in there that i as a democrat don't like. but i think everybody's going to put something in the pot in order to balance the deficit. we did a lousy job in january on the tax side and i hope that -- i think it's better to go over the cliff than do a lousy job -- >> how many people do you know on your side of the field who actually agree with you? >> very few. look they're politicians. they want to spend as much money as they possibly can and they don't want to pay for it. >> who agrees with you? >> oh, i don't know. i bet -- oh, god, joe agrees with me. >> you forgot. the other thing, howard, and i'm just alluding to it, there will be no return to the bush era tax rates on anyone under $400,000? >> right. >> okay. so take that amount of money, whatever that is per year. how much do you need -- how many loopholes do you need to close? what is the marginal rate have to be on people above 400 to replace that potential revenue? it's 100%, isn't it? >> but i don't --
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